Legislature(2005 - 2006)SENATE FINANCE 532

01/12/2006 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
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+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
= SB 70 CRIMES INVOLVING CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES
Heard & Held
= SB 74 CRIMES INVOLVING MARIJUANA/OTHER DRUGS
Heard & Held
= HB 149 CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES
Moved SCS CSHB 149(FIN) Out of Committee
                                                                                                                                
     SENATE CS FOR CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 149(JUD)                                                                               
     "An Act relating to  controlled substances regarding the crimes                                                            
     of   manslaughter  and   misconduct   involving  a   controlled                                                            
     substance;  relating to the manufacture of methamphetamine  and                                                            
     to  the sale, possession,  and delivery  of certain  substances                                                            
     and  precursors  used in the  manufacture  of methamphetamine;                                                             
     relating  to listing  certain anabolic  steroids as  controlled                                                            
     substances;   relating   to  the  listing   of  property   that                                                            
     constitutes  an illegal drug manufacturing site;  amending Rule                                                            
     41, Alaska  Rules of Criminal  Procedure; and providing  for an                                                            
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This  was the first  hearing  for this  bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:14:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken moved  to adopt  committee substitute  Version  24-                                                            
LS0596\Z as the working document.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green objected for discussion.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DARWIN  PETERSON,   Staff  to  Senator  Lyda  Green,   informed  the                                                            
Committee that,  "in essence" the  Version "Z" committee  substitute                                                            
is   a  combination   of   HB  149   and  SB   74-CRIMES   INVOLVING                                                            
MARIJUANA/OTHER   DRUGS,  both   of  which   relate  to   controlled                                                            
substances.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peterson  informed the Committee  that the committee  substitute                                                            
also included Committee  action in regards to SB 74 and SB 70-CRIMES                                                            
INVOLVING  CONTROLLED  SUBSTANCES  that  had  occurred  on  Tuesday,                                                            
January 10, 2006, as follows.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Language  adopted  to SB 74  by Amendment  #1 was incorporated                                                             
     into  this  bill  in  Sec.  2  page  two  line  nine  following                                                            
     "Alaska." as follows.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     "The Legislature  has also considered  its obligation  to carry                                                            
     out  the intent  of the  voters  of Alaska  in recriminalizing                                                             
     marijuana  by  ballot  initiative  in 1990,  and  in  defeating                                                            
     ballot  initiatives to  again decriminalize  marijuana  in 2000                                                            
     and 2004."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     In addition,  language that was  adopted in Amendment  #1 to SB
     74 was inserted  into Sec. 2(9) on page four  following "sell;"                                                            
     on line seven as follows.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     "the street  value of marijuana today is between  $350 and $550                                                            
     per ounce;  the legislature heard  evidence that possession  of                                                            
     four  ounces or  more indicates  an intent  to distribute;  and                                                            
     therefore  this is the appropriate  amount to justify  a felony                                                            
     offense"                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     And  furthermore,   the following   language  was  added  after                                                            
     "(Alaska App. 2004)"  in Sec. 2(9) page four line eleven as per                                                            
     the adoption of Amendment #1 to SB 74.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     "to  invalidate  search  warrants  for  commercial   marijuana-                                                            
     growing and,"                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peterson specified  that language was deleted  in Sec. 8 page 10                                                            
following line  2 "that would have made the possession  of marijuana                                                            
while  driving a Class  A Misdemeanor".  Language  was also  deleted                                                            
from  Sec.  9 page  10  following  line  13 that  "would  have  made                                                            
possession of marijuana  as a passenger in a motor vehicle a Class B                                                            
Misdemeanor.  Both  of  these  deletions  are  also  the  result  of                                                            
Amendment #1 to SB 74".                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Peterson   recalled  testimony   from  Mr.  Guaneli   from  the                                                            
Department of  Law that specified that these deletions  "would serve                                                            
to streamline  the  bill since  this  conduct" is  already  provided                                                            
under Alaska Statutes.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peterson stated that  the following new section was incorporated                                                            
into Sec. 12(b)  on page 12 lines 22 through 27 per  Amendment #2 to                                                            
SB 70. This language  would be required to insure  the exemptions to                                                            
the six-gram  limit on pseudoephedrine  products for such  things as                                                            
lodges and schools.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     (2) more  than six but less than 24 grams of  a listed chemical                                                            
     identified  in (a) of this section  in an ordinary course  of a                                                            
     legitimate  business   or  nonprofit  organization,  or  as  an                                                            
     employee  of a legitimate business  or nonprofit organization,                                                             
     operating  a camp, lodge,  school, day  care center,  treatment                                                            
     center,  other organized  group activity,  and the location  or                                                            
     nature of  the activity , or the age of the participants  makes                                                            
     it impractical  for the participants in the activity  to obtain                                                            
     medicinal products.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Peterson communicated  that  per  Amendment  #2 to  SB 74,  the                                                            
entirety  of Sec. 16,  page 15 lines  5 through  31 was added  to HB
149. This language  would "provide  protection for the personal  use                                                            
of marijuana in a person's  home by imposing a fine rather than jail                                                            
time for the first two convictions."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     * Sec. 16.  AS 12.55.135 is amended by adding  a new subsection                                                          
     to read:                                                                                                                   
          (k) A court may not impose a sentence of imprisonment or                                                              
     suspended   imprisonment   for  possession   of  marijuana   in                                                            
     violation  of AS 11.71.060  if the defendant  alleges,  and the                                                            
     court  finds,  that  the  defendant  was not  under  formal  or                                                            
     informal  probation  or parole  conditions in  this or  another                                                            
     jurisdiction  at the  time of the offense;  that the  defendant                                                            
     possessed  the  marijuana  for  the  defendant's  personal  use                                                            
     within  the defendant's permanent  or temporary residence;  and                                                            
     that the defendant  has not been previously convicted more than                                                            
     once  in  this  or  another  jurisdiction   for  possession  of                                                            
     marijuana.  If the defendant has not been previously  convicted                                                            
     as described  in this subsection, the maximum  unsuspended fine                                                            
     that the  court may impose is  $500. If the defendant  has been                                                            
     previously convicted  once as described in this subsection, the                                                            
     maximum unsuspended  fine that the court may  impose is $1,000.                                                            
     In this subsection,                                                                                                        
                (1) "permanent or temporary residence" means a                                                                  
     permanent   structure  adopted  for  overnight  accommodation;                                                             
     "permanent or temporary residence" does not include                                                                        
                     (A) vehicles, tents, prisons or other                                                                      
     correctional  facilities, residential treatment  facilities, or                                                            
     shelters operated  by a charitable organization or a government                                                            
     agency;                                                                                                                    
                     (B) any place where the defendant's possession                                                             
     or use of  marijuana violated established rules  for residents,                                                            
     such  as a  ban  on smoking  or  a ban  on marijuana  or  other                                                            
     controlled substances;                                                                                                     
          (2) "previously convicted" means the defendant entered a                                                              
     plea  of guilty, no  contest, or nolo  contendere, or  has been                                                            
     found  guilty by  a court or  jury, regardless  of whether  the                                                            
     conviction  was  set  aside under  AS  12.55.085  or a  similar                                                            
     procedure in another  jurisdiction, of possession of marijuana;                                                            
     "previously  convicted"  does not include  a judgment  that has                                                            
     been reversed or vacated by a court.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green asked that this section be further explained.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peterson stated that this language would address the criticism                                                              
that  has been  received  that  this  legislation  would  negatively                                                            
affect   the  recreational   user.  It  would   "clarify  that   the                                                            
Committee's  intent is to give the  Department of Public  Safety the                                                            
tools  they  need to  go  after the  large  marijuana  growers."  An                                                            
individual who  was "caught using marijuana in the  privacy of their                                                            
own home  would not  be faced with  any sort of  a jail time.  There                                                            
would only be a fine."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:18:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Peterson  stated that  per  Committee  discussion  on  Tuesday,                                                            
January  10, 2006,  new language  to address  the concern  regarding                                                            
emancipated minors  and members of the military under  the age of 18                                                            
has been incorporated  into Sec. 18(c)  page 16, lines 20  and 21 in                                                            
order "for those individuals  to be treated in the same manner as an                                                            
adult".                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peterson  noted that  the final change  to HB 149 would  involve                                                            
the addition of  new language as reflected in Sec.  18(g) on page 17                                                            
lines 8 and 9 that reads as follows.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     (g) Notwithstanding another provision of law, a municipality                                                               
     may not enact or enforce an ordinance that is inconsistent                                                                 
     with this section.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Peterson  noted  that  this  section  would  prohibit  a  local                                                            
government  from "preempting  State law with  regard to the  sale or                                                            
dispensation of restricted ephedrine products".                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:18:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peterson  stated that the rest  of the bill is identical  to the                                                            
work that the  Committee conducted in regards to SB  70 and SB 74 on                                                            
January 10, 2006.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:19:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green asked whether  there were any questions regarding the                                                            
bill;  specifically  whether there  were  any questions  about  "the                                                            
merger of these  two drug enforcement bills". The  bills were merged                                                            
"for convenience and hearings … as they have so much in common".                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:19:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson   concurred  that   the  issues  have  many   similar                                                            
properties:  "the addictiveness, the  dependency, the mind  altering                                                            
psychoactive  component". However,  he voiced difficulty  in regards                                                            
to the  public policy question,  respectful  of the fact that  there                                                            
are  two different  substances  and  that,  unlike methamphetamine,                                                             
there is a medical prescriptive component to marijuana.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:21:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green, while noting  that she would defer to Mr. Guaneli of                                                            
the Department  of Law, communicated  that the purpose of  combining                                                            
the marijuana  and methamphetamine  bills was to address  "the final                                                            
result" of the  products, specifically their "harm"  and the efforts                                                            
having  to be exerted  by the  Department of  Public Safety,  health                                                            
officials, and others "to curb those".                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:21:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Olson  acknowledged   Co-Chair   Green's   comments.   His                                                            
reservation would  be that combining the two bills  might jeopardize                                                            
a doctor's  medical  license were  the doctor  to prescribe  medical                                                            
marijuana.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  asked  Mr.  Guaneli to  speak  to  Senator  Olson's                                                            
concern.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:21:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DEAN GUANELI,  Chief Assistant Attorney General, Department  of Law,                                                            
informed  the   Committee  that  this   bill  would  address   three                                                            
controlled  substances:  marijuana,  methamphetamine,  and  anabolic                                                            
steroids. The  fact that the bill's title includes  the reference to                                                            
controlled substances  would allow the bills to be  combined as that                                                            
term would meet the single subject requirement required by law.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Guaneli  continued   that  separate  State  Statute   "directly                                                            
relating to  medical use" would address  the question pertaining  to                                                            
the medical use of marijuana.  This bill would be limited to illegal                                                            
rather than legal uses of controlled substances.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
In  response  to   a  comment  from  Co-Chair  Green,   Mr.  Guaneli                                                            
reiterated that  "there is good grounds for combining  the bills and                                                            
that the medical  aspect is a completely  separate issue  dealt with                                                            
in separate law."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:23:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson   stated  that  while  the  legal  aspect   might  be                                                            
substantiated,  he  continued  to have  concerns  in regard  to  the                                                            
public policy  issue. He  pointed out that  while there are  medical                                                            
reasons to prescribe such  things as cocaine, that substance has not                                                            
been included in this bill.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:23:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Guaneli  voiced appreciation  of Senator  Olson's public  policy                                                            
concern;  however, specified  that he had  been directed to  address                                                            
the legal aspects of the  bill. The Alaska Court System has provided                                                            
"broad  authority  to the  Legislature  to  consider any  number  of                                                            
measures  of public  concerns as  long as  it fits  within a  single                                                            
subject…"  The  Courts  have  provided  the  broadest  authority  in                                                            
regards to issues involving health and safety concerns.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Guaneli pointed  out that testimony has supported  the fact that                                                            
the State has  a meth, marijuana, and anabolic steroid  problem. The                                                            
effort  to address  all of  those issues  in one  bill might  "raise                                                            
policy questions" but "is  certainly legitimate and an efficient way                                                            
to proceed".                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:25:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  commented that marijuana  has been a controversial                                                             
issue in  the State  for more than  a decade.  Continuing, he  noted                                                            
that there was  "broad support" for the original version  of HB 149,                                                            
which  focused on  meth. That  is the  issue that  might cause  some                                                            
problems   for  some   people.  To   that  point,   he  asked   that                                                            
Representative  Jay Ramras, the sponsor of HB 149,  provide input to                                                            
the Committee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:26:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  conveyed  that in  discussions  with  people  about                                                            
whether combining  the two bills might  provide a workable  solution                                                            
the response had been favorable.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:26:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green stated that  she is looking  forward to the  process                                                            
and "arriving  at a solution" through  which to immediately  address                                                            
the dilemma the State is facing.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  agreed that these are  all controlled substances.  He                                                            
noted  that each  of them  might have  some medical  application  to                                                            
which a competent physician would be aware.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:27:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  clarified that the focus of the bill  is the illegal                                                            
use of these controlled substances.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Guaneli  informed  the Committee  that there  is "a very  narrow                                                            
medical use  for methamphetamine"  in that there is an FDA  approved                                                            
product, which  is used to treat severe  cases of obesity.  He noted                                                            
however, that  the effectiveness of that product is  such that it is                                                            
not used very  often. Nonetheless, this would support  the fact that                                                            
a manufacturer  could "carve out a little niche for  a product". The                                                            
illegal use of the drug "far outweighs its legal use".                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:28:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Olson   shared  that   in   his   experience,   prescribed                                                            
methamphetamine  is very effective in treating obesity;  however its                                                            
side affects are the issue.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:29:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  removed her objection  to the committee substitute.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
There being  no further objection,  Version  "Z" was ADOPTED  as the                                                            
working document.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Conceptual Amendment  #1: This amendment deletes Sec.  18(g) on page                                                            
17,  lines eight  and  nine. The  language  being deleted  reads  as                                                            
follows.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     (g) Notwithstanding another provision of law, a municipality                                                               
     may not enact or enforce an ordinance that is inconsistent                                                                 
     with this section.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde moved Amendment #1.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde stated  that the  organization of  government in  the                                                            
State allows for a multitude  of ways to address issues and problems                                                            
that arise, including  "some fervent local control"  as supported by                                                            
the fact  that some communities  in the State  do not allow  alcohol                                                            
and that there are different  taxing levels on tobacco. Thus, it "is                                                            
unusual" that a provision  would be included in this bill that would                                                            
prohibit a local  community from "changing the law  on marijuana and                                                            
methamphetamine  or steroids".  Local people  should be allowed  the                                                            
option to make "more stringent  laws" in regards to these substances                                                            
if so desired. Alaska Legislators  are often frustrated that federal                                                            
law limits their ability to make decisions on the State level.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:32:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken stated  that this might  be the  first time  he has                                                            
"spoken against local control".  This legislation is "a big step" in                                                            
the effort against these  substances. The hope is that society would                                                            
hear  the message  that these  substances  "do much  more harm  than                                                            
good".  His concern  is that were  contiguous  communities to  adopt                                                            
different  rules and law,  there would be  confusion, including  the                                                            
fact that retailers  operating in  more than one community  would be                                                            
required  to conduct different  training  rules. Furthermore,  there                                                            
could be enforcement problems.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  continued  that  were local  communities  able  to                                                            
impose different  laws, a person conducting  these activities  might                                                            
choose to  operate in a  community having  looser restrictions  than                                                            
another.  The fact  that this  is a  Statewide issue  would  support                                                            
there being a single common rule.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:33:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken, characterizing  this legislation  as being  "a big                                                            
step", stated  that the issue  could be readdressed  in the  future.                                                            
The confusion  that would be created  by allowing local communities                                                             
to make  their own laws  and the concern  that one community's  laws                                                            
might  negatively  affect  another  community  would  undermine  the                                                            
Statewide effort.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:34:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  spoke in  support of allowing  local control.  This                                                            
amendment would enable  communities to instill "higher protections".                                                            
People  move  to  other  communities  for  many  reasons   including                                                            
different sales tax amounts and commerce reasons.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  informed the Committee that at a  conference he and                                                            
Senator  Bunde  had  attended,  there  was  support   for  requiring                                                            
logbooks  at retail outlets.  While requiring  that pseudoephedrine                                                             
products  be kept behind  a counter  would reduce  the problem,  the                                                            
logs "would  provide more  protection or reduction  in the  abuse of                                                            
this drug".                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:36:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  clarified that the  provision included in  Sec 18(g)                                                            
would only apply to meth-related products.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:36:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  also spoke  in support of  the amendment, as  he is                                                            
unconvinced that  this legislation is "quite going  far enough." The                                                            
State   of    Oregon   recently    passed   legislation    requiring                                                            
pseudoephedrine  to be a prescription  drug. Unless this  drug could                                                            
be  controlled   in  our  communities,   the  issue  would   require                                                            
redressing.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:37:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson stated  that  this amendment  would  have a  positive                                                            
aspect,  as it  would allow  "a proactive  community"  to  implement                                                            
ordinances that  could assist in "diverting" problems  that might be                                                            
experienced   by  a   neighboring   community.   In  addition,   law                                                            
enforcement  efforts in many  of the communities  he represents  are                                                            
conducted  by the Alaska  State Troopers.  Oftentimes the laws  that                                                            
they must uphold are of  a different magnitude to those of the local                                                            
ordinances.  A local  police force  should not be  inhibited  were a                                                            
community to desire to become more proactive.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  also pointed out that  due to the fact that  meth "is                                                            
such a  rising issue, federal  law might preempt  our State  laws in                                                            
the very near future".                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:38:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  understood that the federal policy  on meth "is tied                                                            
to the Patriot  Act" and as that Act develops, "a  totally different                                                            
set of rules" might come into play.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:39:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  understood  Co-Chair Wilken  concerns;  however,  he                                                            
noted  that  local  control  is  currently  allowed  in  regards  to                                                            
alcohol. While  people might choose to live in one  community verses                                                            
another  due to  the local  alcohol ordinances,  there  has been  no                                                            
effort to remove  local control in  that regard. Were it  found that                                                            
removing the local  control prohibition in regards  to this bill was                                                            
in error, it could be readdressed.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
A roll call was taken on the motion.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Senator Dyson,  Senator Hoffman,  Senator Olson,  Senator                                                            
Stedman, and Senator Bunde                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Co-Chair Wilken and Co-Chair Green                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The motion PASSED (5-2)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #1 was ADOPTED.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:40:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #2:  This amendment deletes the Findings  language in Sec.                                                            
2(7)  page 3  lines  23--26. The  language  being deleted  reads  as                                                            
follows.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     (7)  a high  percentage  of  persons  arrested in  this  state,                                                            
     including  adults and  juveniles who  commit violent  offenses,                                                            
     have marijuana  in their system at the time of  the arrest; the                                                            
     percentage  is  particularly   high  for  adults  arrested  for                                                            
     domestic  violence who test positive for marijuana  at the time                                                            
     of the arrest;                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman  moved  for  consideration   of  Amendment  #2.  He                                                            
reiterated  his earlier  comments  that some  of  the Findings  were                                                            
extreme.  This Finding insinuates  that the  use of marijuana  would                                                            
lead to violence; however,  earlier testimony would not support that                                                            
position.  "Clearly marijuana  has a tendency"  to sedate people  as                                                            
opposed to making them  violent. Removal of this language would keep                                                            
the issue "on point".                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  stated that rather than interpreting  this Finding to                                                            
indicate  that  marijuana  use  causes   people  to  commit  violent                                                            
offenses and  domestic violence, his  interpretation is that  people                                                            
who do  those things  "may also  be marijuana  users". Therefore  he                                                            
would not deem the Finding as being "factually incorrect".                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:42:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Guaneli  communicated  that, "there's  nothing  in that  Finding                                                            
that says that  marijuana causes violence".  He voiced appreciation                                                             
for  Dr. Earlywine's  comments  and  characterized  him  as "a  very                                                            
knowledgeable  and  thoughtful  witness"  whose remarks  before  the                                                            
Committee were  "very candid and he  conceded a lot of points  about                                                            
marijuana".  Nonetheless,  there  is a  difference  between  studies                                                            
conducted in a  controlled laboratory setting and  those provoked in                                                            
a real  setting.  This  Finding is  based on  a long-term  study  of                                                            
people in the  Anchorage jail that  was conducted by the  University                                                            
of  Alaska.  Urine  samples  of  those  arrested   were  tested  for                                                            
marijuana.  The findings  of  the total  male arrestees  found  that                                                            
approximately 50-percent  tested positive for marijuana. The percent                                                            
of males  arrested  on Domestic  Violence  (DV) charges  who  tested                                                            
positive for marijuana  "went up significantly" to approximately 70-                                                            
percent. That is what is  presented in this Finding. The findings of                                                            
the  University  of Alaska  study  concluded  that  a significantly                                                             
greater percentage  of people  arrested for  DV tested positive  for                                                            
marijuana.  "The point"  that  should be  recognized  is that  "most                                                            
domestic  violence  occurs  in the  home;  that's where  people  are                                                            
smoking marijuana; that's  where domestic violence abuse occurs, and                                                            
there's" some unknown "correlation".  This is "the actual finding in                                                            
Alaska today".                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:45:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman opined that  Mr. Guaneli's  comments supported  his                                                            
point.  While 50-percent  of the men  tested in  the Anchorage  jail                                                            
study  tested positive  for marijuana,  50-percent  did not. In  his                                                            
experience  in Southeast  Alaska, "alcohol  is much more  pervasive"                                                            
than marijuana.  He  ventured to guess  that the  people who  tested                                                            
positive  in  the  University  of Alaska  jail  study  also  "tested                                                            
positive  for other  illegal drugs  and most  likely alcohol  also."                                                            
Alcohol  use would  be more  common in  DV situations  in  Southeast                                                            
Alaska.  He would support  moving  away from the  beliefs that  were                                                            
commonplace in the 1960s  and 1970s "and move to be more on-point in                                                            
this  area of  the  bill and  the message  that  is being  sent"  to                                                            
marijuana users  and youth. "The generational disconnect"  should be                                                            
acknowledged.  The  intent  would  be to  convey  "a  clean  concise                                                            
message" to  people, particularly  youth, that this product  has far                                                            
reaching affects on them.  He referenced earlier testimony regarding                                                            
the impact  of marijuana use on youth's  memories and their  ability                                                            
to absorb new information.  Such "impacts could last for generations                                                            
in terms" of  what experiences might  have been lost as a  result of                                                            
marijuana  use at  one's  younger  age. The  language  in Sec.  2(7)                                                            
should be excluded from the bill.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:48:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE: 10:48:42 AM / 10:49:39 AM                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Without objection, Senator Stedman WITHDREW Amendment #2.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Amendment   #3:   This  amendment   deletes   "the   percentage   is                                                            
particularly  high for  adults arrested  for  domestic violence  who                                                            
test positive  for marijuana at the  time of the arrest;"  following                                                            
";" in Sec. 2(7) on page 3 lines 25 and 26.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman moved to adopt Amendment #3.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked whether  Senator Stedman  is implying  that the                                                            
language being omitted is incorrect.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  allowed that while  "there might be validities"  to                                                            
the language  being  offered for  deletion, he  was "more  concerned                                                            
with the message  that it sends".  An effort should be made  to make                                                            
the Findings  and the message "more  on point". The point  is better                                                            
made  by  eliminating  the language  proposed  in  Amendment  #3  as                                                            
opposed to  deleting the  entirety of Sec.  2(7) as was proposed  in                                                            
Amendment #2.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman concluded  that the adoption of this amendment would                                                            
not impact  "the  ability of  law enforcement  agencies  to do  what                                                            
needs to get done".                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:52:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  doubted that  few 15-year olds  would be reading  the                                                            
findings in Sec. 2.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde characterized  domestic  violence  as  being "a  huge                                                            
problem"  in the  State.  The  University  of Alaska  findings  that                                                            
indicate the majority of  people who commit DV also have evidence of                                                            
marijuana in their  system should not be ignored.  He opined that if                                                            
anything  should be removed  from Sec. 2(7)  it should be the  first                                                            
portion rather than the second portion of the Finding.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
A roll call was taken on the motion.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Senator Stedman, Senator Hoffman, and Co-Chair Green                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Senator  Bunde, Senator Dyson, Senator Olson,  and Co-Chair                                                            
Wilken                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The motion FAILED (3-4)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #3 FAILED to be adopted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:54:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  observed  there being  seven  references  to  Alaska                                                            
Natives in  the Findings  presented in Sec.  2 pages two and  three.                                                            
Testimony pointed  out that there  was no difference in the  results                                                            
of  studies  relating to  Alaska  Natives  verses  other  population                                                            
groups within  the State. He questioned whether there  was intent to                                                            
target the Alaska  Native population, as there are  no references to                                                            
other minorities  such as Blacks. Therefore, he asked  to the reason                                                            
for including these references.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:55:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green noted  that each  year, there  is discussion  during                                                            
Legislative drug,  alcohol, and substance abuse hearings  about "the                                                            
designation  of great  sums of money  on a racial  basis" to  Native                                                            
Alaskan and  Rural Alaska  programs. This could  not continue  to be                                                            
done while claiming "that it's not a problem".                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:56:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Guaneli stated that  this Finding was not intended to "denigrate                                                            
Alaska Natives  or any other group"; rather the intent  was "to make                                                            
the case that we're dealing  with a problem in Alaska". Marijuana in                                                            
this State "is  particularly potent". In order to  address the issue                                                            
fairly, the fact  that "there are certain populations  within Alaska                                                            
that  seem  to be  more  disproportionably  affected  by  this  than                                                            
others" must be  recognized. The Finding that "more  than half being                                                            
children under  18 years of age and  more than a third being  Alaska                                                            
Natives"  as depicted  in  Sec. 2(2)  page 2  lines 25  and 26,  was                                                            
derived  as a  result  of testimony  presented  by the  Division  of                                                            
Behavioral Health,  Department of Health and Social  Services to the                                                            
Senate  Health and  Social  Services  and Judiciary  Committees  the                                                            
previous  Legislative   session.   The  statement  in  the   Finding                                                            
pertaining  to pregnant women  was based on  a recent Department  of                                                            
Health and Social Services study.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Guaneli  noted   that  this  information  is  consistent   with                                                            
information compiled  several years earlier. The averages  of Alaska                                                            
Native  high  school  youth  users came  from  Youth  Risk  Behavior                                                            
surveys  which indicate  that Native  use in this  age group  "is 20                                                            
percent higher  than non-Native  use. Those  were the most  striking                                                            
differences  among  various  groups."  Variations   between  Blacks,                                                            
Asian,  and  Pacific  Islanders  and  other   non-Native  groups  as                                                            
compared to Native  youth are minor. "This is a recognition  that in                                                            
Alaska we  have particular  problems that  would justify a  solution                                                            
for Alaska  only". Testimony provided  by the Alaska State  Troopers                                                            
contended that  Alaska Native villages  would likely be impacted  by                                                            
marijuana  production and  availability. "It's  all joined  together                                                            
and no disrespect" was  intended. The Finding is simply "recognition                                                            
that  there are  Alaska  specific  problems that  need  to be  dealt                                                            
with."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:59:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  asked  Mr.  Guaneli  whether  he  would  support  an                                                            
amendment to remove the Native references.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:59:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Guaneli   responded   that  he  could   not  "agree  with   the                                                            
characterization  that those are pejorative references.  They are an                                                            
accurate  reflection  of what  is  happening  in our  society."  The                                                            
question  would  be  in regards  to  the  reason  for  removing  the                                                            
language.  Were the language  removed, a Court  in the future  might                                                            
determine  that the  Legislature  had not  perceived there  to  be a                                                            
problem in Rural Alaska  and that the problem was less than thought.                                                            
The Findings  were developed  "to reflect what  the experts  and the                                                            
statistics show". There was no disrespectful intent.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:00:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  opined that this language would have  a "subconscious                                                            
effect" on non-Native individuals of targeting Alaska Natives.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Guaneli,  acknowledging  being non-Native,  noted that  this was                                                            
not his interpretation of the language.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:01:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  voiced being impressed  by Senator Olson's  comments.                                                            
Therefore, he questioned  whether the implications of the data might                                                            
be "more geographic  than racial".  He suggested that replacing  the                                                            
term Native  with  the term "Rural"  might address  Senator  Olson's                                                            
concerns.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:02:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson responded  that the difficulty  with Senator  Dyson's                                                            
proposal  is that  people in the  studies identified  themselves  as                                                            
Native rather than Rural.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Guaneli  commented that the people  in the Department  of Health                                                            
and  Social  Services  studies  "self-report"  themselves  as  being                                                            
Alaska Native.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:03:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Guaneli noted that  he would not be opposed to making changes to                                                            
address this  concern as long as it  was "clear that the  reason for                                                            
the deletion of  references to Alaska Natives is because  of concern                                                            
that somehow  the  findings were  disrespectful  or pejorative,  not                                                            
that there is a doubt about  the statistic." The studies would speak                                                            
for  themselves  and could  be argued  in  Court regardless  of  the                                                            
exclusion of the references to Alaska Natives in these findings.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:04:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  stated that, "with  all due respect to Senator  Olson                                                            
and the Native people of  Alaska, denial is one of the huge parts of                                                            
treating  drug dependency  and  alcohol abuse."  No  one has  argued                                                            
that, "these  facts are not true".  Therefore, an attempt  "to gloss                                                            
over or ignore  the problem, Native or non-Native"  would not assist                                                            
in  addressing   the  problem.   Rather   than  being  "pejorative,                                                             
acknowledgement  is the first step  toward" addressing the  problem.                                                            
He likened this to a family  in denial of having a family member who                                                            
is  an alcoholic  or a  drug  abuser. That  denial  would allow  the                                                            
behavior to continue.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:05:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  noted that he has not had an opportunity  to review                                                            
the  studies.  Nonetheless,  he would  expect  there  to  be a  high                                                            
correlation  between  someone having  an  education  level of  grade                                                            
twelve or beyond  and economic opportunities  within the  geographic                                                            
area, regardless  of the location in the State. While  he was unsure                                                            
as to how education factored  into the studies, references have been                                                            
made to  those having  low education  skills,  regardless of  ethnic                                                            
background and economic  opportunities. The State should be cautious                                                            
in regards to language that is used.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:06:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Conceptual  Amendment  #4:  This  amendment  removes  references  to                                                            
Alaska Natives  in the bill's findings by deleting  "and more than a                                                            
third being  Alaska Natives"  following "age"  in Sec. 2(2)  page 2,                                                            
lines 25 and 26 and removing  "and the percentage of pregnant Alaska                                                            
Native  women  using marijuana  is  more  than double  the  national                                                            
average  and   the  average  for   non-Native  Alaskan  women;   the                                                            
percentage  of  Alaska  Native  high  school  youth  who  have  used                                                            
marijuana  is significantly  higher  than among  non-Native  youth;"                                                            
following "average" in the same section, lines 27 through 30.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
In addition, the  language ", particularly among Alaska  Natives" is                                                            
deleted  from  Sec.   2(5)  page  3  line  12  following   the  word                                                            
"marijuana".                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman moved to  strike the references to Alaska Natives in                                                            
the Findings.  This  action is  based on  the comments  made by  Mr.                                                            
Guaneli.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman expressed  that criminalizing  marijuana is  a very                                                            
controversial  issue. While he desired to support  this legislation,                                                            
including the  references to Alaska Natives "as justification  … for                                                            
criminalizing marijuana, is going down the wrong track."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:07:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  stated that this amendment  as well as the  amendment                                                            
previously  offered by Senator  Stedman, cements  the fact  that the                                                            
Members, as well as experts,  "are struggling with separating what's                                                            
correlation and what's cause and affect".                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green agreed that that is a hard determination.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  supported Senator Stedman's position  that "there are                                                            
a  lot of  things  that  correlate  with the  abuse"  of  controlled                                                            
substances.   He  voiced  his  desire   to  separately  review   the                                                            
University   of  Alaska   study  referenced   by  Mr.  Guaneli.   He                                                            
characterized  Anchorage as  being "the largest  Native village"  in                                                            
the State. He  was curious whether those who self-report  themselves                                                            
as Natives  had "a higher propensity"  for marijuana abuse.  If not,                                                            
then  it must be  assumed  that there  are other  factors. Were  the                                                            
study  to not  indicate an  ethnic driven  propensity  of abuse,  he                                                            
would  support  this kind  of  amendment. Additional  opportunities                                                             
would  be  provided   to  address  this  again  during   the  bill's                                                            
advancement process.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Guaneli  identified the  portions of  the Findings that  include                                                            
the  references to  Native  Alaskans.  The identified  portions  are                                                            
depicted in the amendment.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:10:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Following  a brief  discussion, Senator  Hoffman  and Senator  Olson                                                            
agreed that  the reference to "Alaska  Natives" in Sec. 2  page two,                                                            
line five could be retained in the bill.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:12:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman concurred  with the  references  identified by  Mr.                                                            
Guaneli.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:12:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  stated that he would not support  the amendment. He                                                            
assumed that  the references  to Alaska Natives  were the result  of                                                            
information  included  in "Tab  E"  of a  100-page study  [copy  not                                                            
provided]  that had been  distributed to members  of the Senate  HES                                                            
Committee.  He noted  that  he would  be investigating  whether  the                                                            
population  that was  studied was  "a broad  population". He  agreed                                                            
with Senator  Dyson  that there  would be  additional opportunities                                                             
through which this issue could be re-addressed.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken commented  that were  the study  to concentrate  on                                                            
Alaska Natives  then it "would not be fair to highlight  them in the                                                            
bill".  However,  were the  study  to have  a wide  population,  and                                                            
Alaska  Natives   found  to  have  higher  percentages   than  other                                                            
populations, then it would  be appropriate. He reiterated that while                                                            
it would be his intent  to vote no at this time, he would be open to                                                            
a follow up amendment were the study found to be narrow.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:14:15 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  voiced that he too  would desire to review  the study                                                            
before supporting  the amendment.  He asked whether deletion  of the                                                            
reference to Alaska  Natives in the findings might  allow for denial                                                            
of treatment programs  for targeted groups of people  in the future.                                                            
"If there's  not a  problem, we ought  not to  be spending money  on                                                            
it."                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  stated that she had  also intended to mention  that.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:15:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  stated that rather  than his remarks to  deny there                                                            
being a problem, the intent  was to point out "that pinpointing this                                                            
cultural  group in  this legislation  would  have no  affect on  the                                                            
law."  While he  is supportive  of  re-criminalizing  marijuana,  he                                                            
could not support  including Native  Alaskans in the legislation  as                                                            
"justification"  for approving that  controversial issue.  He opined                                                            
that  were the  references  to Alaska  Natives  to continue  in  the                                                            
findings,  he and  other Native  colleagues  would  not support  the                                                            
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green noted that  in her initial  review of the bill,  she                                                            
had not been "blinded"  by the words. She opined that any references                                                            
to one-third  of the being Native  population meant that  two-thirds                                                            
were non-Native.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:16:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman  spoke  in support  of  the  amendment.  This is  a                                                            
Statewide  problem.  There might  be ethnic  groups  that have  more                                                            
challenges  than others  with these  substances.  There are  certain                                                            
geographic  areas that  have more  problems. There  is a problem  in                                                            
Southeast Alaska.  The same effect  could be obtained and  a "better                                                            
message" could be delivered, were the amendment adopted.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:17:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  asked whether  the  Findings  information  had  been                                                            
included  in  the original  bill  presented  by  Representative  Jay                                                            
Ramras or in the Senate bills.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green recalled  this information  being  available to  the                                                            
Senate HES Committee;  however, she was uncertain  as to whether the                                                            
Department or the sponsor had provided it.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:18:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JAY RAMRAS  stated that,  being the  sponsor of  the                                                            
bill, he  would "take responsibility  for  this language".  From the                                                            
perspective of  being "the youngest" Legislator "at  this table", he                                                            
shared  that he had  been "introduced  to marijuana  in the  seventh                                                            
grade by a Native kid ….  The kids I smoked weed with in high school                                                            
were all non-Native.  So, it's difficult for me as  the bill sponsor                                                            
to support  language that  draws a distinction  between Natives  and                                                            
non-Natives   because    when   I   grew   up,   the   problem   was                                                            
indistinguishable."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  and Senator Bunde thanked Representative  Ramras for                                                            
his remarks.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:19:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
In response to a question  from Senator Olson, Mr. Guaneli responded                                                            
that  removal of  this language  would  not affect  law enforcement                                                             
efforts. The purpose of  the Findings would be to allow the Court to                                                            
consider  the Legislature's  judgment in regards  to issues  such as                                                            
the  use of  marijuana  by young  people or  pregnant  women were  a                                                            
lawsuit challenging  the marijuana  laws brought before the  Courts.                                                            
The studies  and evidence that the  State has complied "would  speak                                                            
for themselves";  in other words, he believed that  the Courts would                                                            
take into  consideration  the fact  that the  studies would  support                                                            
there being  "a disproportionate impact  on certain groups,  whether                                                            
it be geographic related  or something else." In summary, he did not                                                            
consider "this  amendment as crippling  our efforts in any  way" and                                                            
that "the laws would be upheld".                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:20:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Guaneli  acknowledged  the Member's  concerns  about the use  of                                                            
marijuana  by certain  groups. "That  message is  going to be  heard                                                            
loud and clear by the Courts  ultimately," regardless of whether the                                                            
amendment is adopted.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:20:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked whether  the adoption  of this amendment  would                                                            
diminish  the ability for  the State to prevail  were there  a legal                                                            
challenge.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Guaneli responded that it would not.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:21:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde recalled  there having been "Court-ordered activity by                                                            
the State  in other  arenas". To  that point,  he asked whether  the                                                            
removal of this  language would "make it less likely  that the Court                                                            
then would  say we  need to have  targeted  enforcement or  targeted                                                            
remedial activities."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:21:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Guaneli  responded that rather  than the challenge arising  as a                                                            
result of  "one area of  the State" or another  being targeted,  the                                                            
anticipation is that the  challenge would be based "on just a single                                                            
case and the  ultimate question is  going to be is there  sufficient                                                            
justification  based  on  what  is known  about  marijuana  and  its                                                            
effects  Statewide  to  justify  the  Legislature   regulating  this                                                            
substance".  He  believed  that even  were  the  amendment  adopted,                                                            
"there's sufficient justification for the Courts saying that."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call was taken on the motion.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Senator  Olson, Senator Hoffman, Senator  Stedman, Senator                                                            
Dyson, and Co-Chair Green                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Senator Bunde and Co-Chair Wilken                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The motion PASSED (5-2)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #4 was ADOPTED.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:23:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  noted that the bill's  fiscal notes are either  zero                                                            
or indeterminate.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  asked Representative Ramras his opinion  in regards                                                            
to combining the bills.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ramras  voiced being  "comfortable"  with the  bills                                                            
being combined  because the primary  activity "being addressed  here                                                            
is  criminal enterprise;   that seems  to  be a  common denominator                                                             
amongst the commercial  sale of marijuana, distribution of steroids,                                                            
and methamphetamine."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  moved  to  report the  bill  from  Committee  with                                                            
individual recommendations and accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There being  no objection,  SCS CS  HB 149 (FIN)  was REPORTED  from                                                            
Committee  with  five new  January  12, 2006  fiscal  notes: a  zero                                                            
fiscal  note from the  Department  of Public Safety;  a zero  fiscal                                                            
note  from the  Department  of  Law; a  zero  fiscal note  from  the                                                            
Department  of Health and Social Services;  an indeterminate  fiscal                                                            
note for the Public  Defender Agency, Department of  Administration;                                                            
and  an  indeterminate  fiscal   note  from  the  Office  of  Public                                                            
Advocacy, Department of Administration.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

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